hagel and, as you acknowledged, he had made those 1998 anti-gay comments against jim hormel. is there some kind of statute of limitations on when someone can make anti-gay remarks and still be deemed acceptable by the administration? and if so -- >> i think ive addressed the question about senator hagel. and i would simply point you to president obamas record on lgbt issues as representative of his beliefs and convictions, his policies and where he believes this country is moving and where he hopes to lead it. >> jay, can i clarify one question? >> i'll try. >> i heard you unequivocally rule out using the 14th amendment on the debt ceiling. i heard you unequivocally rule out negotiating with congress. but you did not rule out this trillion-dollar coin idea. so can i ask you just a yes or no question -- does the white house rule out the idea of minting trillion-dollar coins as a way of dealing with the debt ceiling? >> i would refer you to treasury for the specifics of this question. i can tell you that the president does not believe that there is a backup plan or a plan b or